Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol
Vinay Aggarwal <vinay@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> Mon, 11 August 2008 14:35 UTC
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From: Vinay Aggarwal <vinay@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de>
To: Enrico Marocco <enrico.marocco@telecomitalia.it>
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Subject: Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol
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Hello, Regarding what information the ALTO service can provide: I think an estimate of "last-hop bandwidth" can be an interesting metric of information for peer selection. It has been shown that selecting peers with high last-hop bandwidth lead to improvements in download performance. And this is information that is rather hard for peers to find out themselves. As far as I can see, it also satisfies all the bars set up by the ALTO service. Any thoughts? Thanks, Vinay. ----------------- Vinay Aggarwal Deutsche Telekom Germany. On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:14:19PM +0200, Enrico Marocco wrote: > As some people suggested, it may be useful to try to understand what > kind of information will be provided by an ALTO service. > > Current version of the charter lists four pieces of information: > + routing preferences and priority values. The network operator is > usually the only entity in possession of such information, but it is > in its interests to share at least part of it with applications, in > order to reduce traffic on critical links. On the other hand, if > following such preferences leads to better-than-random choices, it is > also in applications' interest to follow them; > + AS numbers and approximate geographic locations. Such information is > today (partially) available and, in fact, is in some cases already > used for peer selection. However, since there is no standard way to > obtain it, it is not easy for applications to switch from an > information provider to another. > > The charter does not preclude any other kind of information entirely, > but it sets the bar pretty high, requiring that: > > When the WG considers standardizing schemas, measures or other > information that the ALTO service could provide, the following > criteria are important to ensure real feasibility. > - Can an ALTO service technically provide that information? > - Is the ALTO service willing to obtain and divulge that information? > - Is it information that some client will find useful? > - Can that client get that information without excessive privacy > concerns (e.g. by sending large lists of peers)? > - Is it information that clients cannot find easily some other way? > > Thoughts? > > -- > Ciao, > Enrico > _______________________________________________ > p2pi mailing list > p2pi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi _______________________________________________ p2pi mailing list p2pi@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi
- [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Vinay Aggarwal
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol chsoft
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Vinay Aggarwal
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Sebastian Kiesel
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Fabio Hecht
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Song Haibin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol David R Oran
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Lisa Dusseault
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol David R Oran
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Lisa Dusseault
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol David R Oran
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Lisa Dusseault
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Salman Abdul Baset
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Griffiths, Chris
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
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- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol stefano previdi
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol stefano previdi
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Ye WANG
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Philip Levis
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Ye WANG
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- Re: [p2pi] Information in an ALTO protocol Laird Popkin
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