Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter

Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Tue, 21 October 2008 15:39 UTC

Return-Path: <p2pi-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: p2pi-archive@ietf.org
Delivered-To: ietfarch-p2pi-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DC728C0D0; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: p2pi@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: p2pi@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92163A67C0; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Js2ewUE69X6V; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60DC3A6AE9; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [70.213.149.171] (171.sub-70-213-149.myvzw.com [70.213.149.171]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LFeIkM004639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <48FDF7E2.7050603@isi.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:18 -0700
From: Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
References: <AE465507-305C-41A4-BE95-311BB628064B@shlang.com> <B5A5E01F9387F4409E67604C0257C71E660E5F@NDJSEVS25A.ndc.nasa.gov> <71ACFD76-A76F-4CCD-B675-BA5A984976BE@nokia.com>
In-Reply-To: <71ACFD76-A76F-4CCD-B675-BA5A984976BE@nokia.com>
X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7
X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu
Cc: p2pi@ietf.org, tana@ietf.org, TSV Area <tsv-area@ietf.org>, "ext Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ]" <Wesley.M.Eddy@nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter
X-BeenThere: p2pi@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: P2P Infrastructure Discussion <p2pi.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi>, <mailto:p2pi-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/pipermail/p2pi>
List-Post: <mailto:p2pi@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:p2pi-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi>, <mailto:p2pi-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: p2pi-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: p2pi-bounces@ietf.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1



Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2008-10-21, at 10:12, ext Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] wrote:
>> The charter, as written looks reasonable to me.  I just hate the name
>> :).
> 
> the name was an ad hoc creation, and when it was picked, some of the
> stuff that ended up being ALTO was part of the TANA scope - so it needed
> to be broader.
> 
> If we can come up with a better name I'm all ears (and you make several
> good suggestions below). What I'd like to avoid is a long discussion
> about a text string, when what I'd rather like to see is a discussion on
> whether the work we're going to attempt is reasonable.
> 
> Lars
> 
>> It should really be something like:
>> "Minimizing Impact of Large Transfers" (MILT)
>> "Concurrent Realtime And Bulk Applications" (CRABA)
>> "Fast Transfers Adding Minimal Latency" (FTAML)
>> "Bulk And Realtime Flows Interacting as Good Neighbors" (BARFIGN) --
>> probably not a good one as it looks too much like "barfing" :)

FWIW, it seems like "background TCP" is what you want (BTCP); granted,
that's already a spec'd protocol ;-)

Maybe, more generally, Background Congestion Control (BACK-CC)?

Joe
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEYEARECAAYFAkj99+EACgkQE5f5cImnZrvY9ACgxGAeY/J4lMtZvxEht+/gxdfx
KDUAniB8eeoRz0Z4HDyDBCGbKAHtAVvn
=KTqj
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
_______________________________________________
p2pi mailing list
p2pi@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi