Re: [p2pi] discussing P2PI-related standardization in Dublin

The proposal for the ALTO BoF (which roughly covers (3)) is now in the
BoF tracker. You can read about it at its home page:

http://alto.tilab.com/

ALTO proposes to explore a slightly broader space than merely P2P
file-sharing applications, since discovery of nearby peers has equal
applicability to many real-time communications protocols (for example,
the discovery of a TURN server to assist the establishment of a VoIP
session). Although RAI proposes to sponsor a BoF on this subject, we're
not yet persuaded that RAI would be the optimal home for any ongoing
work efforts related to this space - we hope that discussions
surrounding the BoF could elucidate the proper division of labor and
approach to this problem.

I do believe this work effort is sufficiently distinct from the
transport issues discussed in (1) and (2) of Lars' original mail to
merit a separate effort. I do, however, whole-heartedly support TSV
taking on (1) and (2) in a forum like TANA. 

Jon Peterson
NeuStar, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: iesg-bounces@iesg.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@iesg.org] On Behalf Of
Lars Eggert
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:41 AM
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Subject: Re: discussing P2PI-related standardization in Dublin

Hi,

related to the work item below, I've just heard that some folks had  
already been discussing the submission of a more targeted BOF  
proposal. Depending on the details of that proposal (which I haven't  
seen yet), work item (3) might be subsumed by it.

On 2008-6-6, at 15:58, Lars Eggert wrote:
> (3) A mechanism that lets an application that can
>    transfer data from or to several potential peers (i.e.,
>    servers, caches, end systems) select a subset of peers
>    for efficient transmission in a way that is aligned with
>    the dynamic interconnection structure of the network
>    operators that provide connectivity to those peers.
>    Application designers, network equipment vendors and
>    network operators will need to collaborate on this work
>    item to define what kinds of dynamic interconnection
>    information is useful to applications, how to obtain it,
>    and how to provide it to applications, resulting in a
>    generic mechanism that is broadly applicable to many
>    current and future applications. This work item has
>    obvious interactions with the IETF's Application, Routing
>    and Operations areas. In order to make this effort more
>    manageable, it may make sense to work out the
>    requirements for such a solution first, before discussing
>    individual proposals or breaking up the work into pieces
>    for specification in different areas or WGs.

Lars

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