Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft
David Bryan <dbryan@ethernot.org> Tue, 03 February 2015 15:14 UTC
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From: David Bryan <dbryan@ethernot.org>
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft
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I can iterate next week or week after, and yes, agree it is very close to ready for WGLC. On Feb 3, 2015 8:35 AM, "Gonzalo Camarillo" <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > thanks for the quick response! Given the status, I think you can just > revise the draft and get the chairs to WGLC it. Do you have an ETA for > such a revision? > > Thanks, > > Gonzalo > > On 03/02/2015 3:43 PM, David Bryan wrote: > > I am indeed. It needs one small pass to conform to 6940 language but > > should otherwise be good to go. I have in my notes that I was waiting > > for any further comments, but the list has been very quiet. > > > > On Feb 3, 2015 2:37 AM, "Gonzalo Camarillo" > > <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com <mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > what is the status of this draft? Are its authors actively working > > on it? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gonzalo > > > > On 17/06/2014 8:33 PM, Rosen, Brian wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 13, 2014, at 4:40 PM, David Bryan <dbryan@ethernot.org > > <mailto:dbryan@ethernot.org>> wrote: > > > > > >> I was recently asked to update the concepts draft and discuss the > > important issues. The pass that has been made is largely around > > normalizing the text to be compliant with the terminology of RFC > > 6940, but it certainly will need an additional pass after a few > > questions to the group: > > >> > > >> To move this draft forward, there are a few open issues/questions: > > >> > > >> MAJOR OPEN ISSUE: The initial wording in the high-level > > description > > >> about proving AoR to contact mapping reflects a very long and > > >> contentious debate about the role of the protocol, and > reflected a > > >> pretense that this was an overlay only for P2PSIP. That is not > > >> really true in base anymore (see last paragraph of > > introduction) and > > >> the language has been very much genericized in base. Should > > we make > > >> this text more abstract and then use AoR->contact mapping as an > > >> example of the (original) use? On a related note, see the last > > >> paragraph of the Background section -- do we want to reword > this? > > >> > > >> (my thought would be to make the text more generic, and mention > > that the AoR->contact mapping is the most popular usage…) > > > Agree > > > > > >> > > >> OPEN ISSUE: Should we include a section that documents previous > > >> decisions made, to preserve the historical debate and prevent > past > > >> issues from being raised in the future, or simply rely on the > > mailing > > >> list to address these concerns? > > >> > > >> (I don't think we want to do this. Huge (and largely unneeded) > > can of worms, but it has been in the open issues section for some > > time and should be at least asked of the list) > > > No, we don’t need to do this > > > > > >> > > >> OPEN ISSUE: Should we include the use cases from > > >> draft-bryan-p2psip-app-scenarios-00 (now long expired)? There > was > > >> some interest in doing so in previous versions, but no > > conclusion was > > >> reached. > > >> > > >> (given the current stage of the group, I would say these aren't > > likely to be useful anymore, but again, as it is currently listed as > > an open issue in the draft, need to check) > > > Nah, I don’t think it is necessary, or even that useful at this > point > > > > > >> > > >> The final open issue is do we want to advance the draft? In > > discussion with the chairs and some folks, it seems the answer is > > yes, there is useful material and we should push the draft out, but > > I wanted to discuss. Assuming there is still interest, I'd also > > welcome any comments on the draft...I'm sure I missed a few spots > > where it no longer aligns with 6940. > > > I would like to see this finished. > > > > > >> > > >> David > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> P2PSIP mailing list > > >> P2PSIP@ietf.org <mailto:P2PSIP@ietf.org> > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > P2PSIP mailing list > > > P2PSIP@ietf.org <mailto:P2PSIP@ietf.org> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > > > > > > >
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- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft David Bryan
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Gonzalo Camarillo
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