Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft
Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Tue, 03 February 2015 15:24 UTC
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From: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft
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David is my hero. On Feb 3, 2015 9:14 AM, "David Bryan" <dbryan@ethernot.org> wrote: > I can iterate next week or week after, and yes, agree it is very close to > ready for WGLC. > On Feb 3, 2015 8:35 AM, "Gonzalo Camarillo" < > Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> thanks for the quick response! Given the status, I think you can just >> revise the draft and get the chairs to WGLC it. Do you have an ETA for >> such a revision? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gonzalo >> >> On 03/02/2015 3:43 PM, David Bryan wrote: >> > I am indeed. It needs one small pass to conform to 6940 language but >> > should otherwise be good to go. I have in my notes that I was waiting >> > for any further comments, but the list has been very quiet. >> > >> > On Feb 3, 2015 2:37 AM, "Gonzalo Camarillo" >> > <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com <mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com >> >> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > what is the status of this draft? Are its authors actively working >> > on it? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Gonzalo >> > >> > On 17/06/2014 8:33 PM, Rosen, Brian wrote: >> > > >> > > On Jun 13, 2014, at 4:40 PM, David Bryan <dbryan@ethernot.org >> > <mailto:dbryan@ethernot.org>> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I was recently asked to update the concepts draft and discuss the >> > important issues. The pass that has been made is largely around >> > normalizing the text to be compliant with the terminology of RFC >> > 6940, but it certainly will need an additional pass after a few >> > questions to the group: >> > >> >> > >> To move this draft forward, there are a few open >> issues/questions: >> > >> >> > >> MAJOR OPEN ISSUE: The initial wording in the high-level >> > description >> > >> about proving AoR to contact mapping reflects a very long and >> > >> contentious debate about the role of the protocol, and >> reflected a >> > >> pretense that this was an overlay only for P2PSIP. That is >> not >> > >> really true in base anymore (see last paragraph of >> > introduction) and >> > >> the language has been very much genericized in base. Should >> > we make >> > >> this text more abstract and then use AoR->contact mapping as >> an >> > >> example of the (original) use? On a related note, see the >> last >> > >> paragraph of the Background section -- do we want to reword >> this? >> > >> >> > >> (my thought would be to make the text more generic, and mention >> > that the AoR->contact mapping is the most popular usage…) >> > > Agree >> > > >> > >> >> > >> OPEN ISSUE: Should we include a section that documents >> previous >> > >> decisions made, to preserve the historical debate and prevent >> past >> > >> issues from being raised in the future, or simply rely on the >> > mailing >> > >> list to address these concerns? >> > >> >> > >> (I don't think we want to do this. Huge (and largely unneeded) >> > can of worms, but it has been in the open issues section for some >> > time and should be at least asked of the list) >> > > No, we don’t need to do this >> > > >> > >> >> > >> OPEN ISSUE: Should we include the use cases from >> > >> draft-bryan-p2psip-app-scenarios-00 (now long expired)? >> There was >> > >> some interest in doing so in previous versions, but no >> > conclusion was >> > >> reached. >> > >> >> > >> (given the current stage of the group, I would say these aren't >> > likely to be useful anymore, but again, as it is currently listed as >> > an open issue in the draft, need to check) >> > > Nah, I don’t think it is necessary, or even that useful at this >> point >> > > >> > >> >> > >> The final open issue is do we want to advance the draft? In >> > discussion with the chairs and some folks, it seems the answer is >> > yes, there is useful material and we should push the draft out, but >> > I wanted to discuss. Assuming there is still interest, I'd also >> > welcome any comments on the draft...I'm sure I missed a few spots >> > where it no longer aligns with 6940. >> > > I would like to see this finished. >> > > >> > >> >> > >> David >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> P2PSIP mailing list >> > >> P2PSIP@ietf.org <mailto:P2PSIP@ietf.org> >> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > P2PSIP mailing list >> > > P2PSIP@ietf.org <mailto:P2PSIP@ietf.org> >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip >> > > >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > P2PSIP mailing list > P2PSIP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip > >
- [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft David Bryan
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- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Rosen, Brian
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft David Bryan
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft David Bryan
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Dean Willis
- Re: [P2PSIP] Concepts Draft Gonzalo Camarillo