Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly disabled for IP data? Or always?
Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Tue, 29 June 2021 10:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly disabled for IP data? Or always?
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Derek, On 28/06/2021 19:46, Derek Fawcus wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 09:39:34AM +0100, Bob Briscoe wrote: >> My attempt to generalize this UK-specific knowledge: No-one is going to >> add sequencing without a reason, and the only possible reason mentioned >> so far would be stateful compression, which these days would just slow >> things down more than the bandwidth saved. > I also mentioned PWE fragmentation - rfc4623 - it depends upon the sequence > numbers as a fragment identifier. So depending upon how it is implemented, > it may implicitly turn on sequencing, without the user knowing. > > So the related question then becomes, where is that fragmentation support > being used - if anywhere? [BB] Sorry, I omitted to explain that, in the PWE case, I didn't think differential delay would be a problem, because all traffic in the PWE would be expected to want the same low delay service. My concern was about sequencing of tunnelled packets undoing deliberately differentiated delay between different types of IP traffic within an aggregate. But thanks for picking me up on not explaining that. Cheers Bob > > DF > > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > Int-area@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area -- ________________________________________________________________ Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] L2TP sequenc… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Derek Fawcus
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] L2TP sequenc… Derek Fawcus
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Giles Heron
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… James Bensley
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Derek Fawcus
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… David Allan I
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… James Bensley
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Giles Heron
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… James Bensley
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… tom petch
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Derek Fawcus
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Giles Heron
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Giles Heron
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Giles Heron
- Re: [Pals] [Int-area] L2TP sequencing: Commonly d… Bob Briscoe
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