Re: [Pals] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-05: (with DISCUSS)

"BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com> Wed, 28 September 2016 11:27 UTC

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From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com>
To: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Pals] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-05: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Alexey,

As you say, this is a simple edit. For ISs, there are no clear procedures and we thought this was less risk. IANA was also ok.

How about we do this as an RFC Editor Note?

If you could clear your DISCUSS before vacation that would be great.

Thanks,
Deborah


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:aamelnikov@fastmail.fm]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:04 AM
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> stewart.bryant@gmail.com; pals@ietf.org
> Subject: Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-pals-rfc4447bis-05: (with
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> DISCUSS:
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> I have a simple issue with the IANA Considerations section which should
> be easy to address:
> 
> The IANA section seem to be suggesting that IANA should do full search of
> its registries to update all references to RFC 4447 to point to
> rfc4447bis. I don't think it is easy for IANA to do that.
> 
> This document is obsoleting RFC 4447, which means that there is no need
> to ever read RFC 4447 in order to implement this document. For that
> reason, you should copy and paste content of the original RFC 4447's IANA
> Considerations into this document. After that, add a sentence saying that
> the only change is updating references to point to this document.
> 
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