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From: "Christian Schmutzer (cschmutz)" <cschmutz@cisco.com>
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
CC: "Christian Schmutzer (cschmutz)" <cschmutz@cisco.com>, "Christian Schmutzer (cschmutz)" <cschmutz=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>, "draft-schmutzer-pals-ple@ietf.org" <draft-schmutzer-pals-ple@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Pals] Feedback request for draft-schmutzer-pals-ple
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Hi Andy,

Many thanks for having a look at our draft.

PLE is very similar to RFC4553 (SAToP) where any multiplexing structure of the carried bit-stream is ignored. However RFC4553 was only defined for E1/T1/E3/T3 PDH interfaces and hence we started this new draft to widen the scope of bit-streams that can be carried.

In contrast RFC4842 (CEP) and RFC5086 (CESoPSN) are aware of the SONET/SDH or NxDS0 multiplexing structure, terminate it and the pseudowire is used to carry virtual containers or channels.

We already pointed to RFC4553 in the introduction section of our draft to highlight the similarity.

If it helps the clarity of the draft we can also expand there on how other RFCs such as RFC4842 and RFC5086 are different?

Regards
Christian

On 22.02.2022, at 16:56, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com<mailto:agmalis@gmail.com>> wrote:

Christian,

Thanks for the note and aiming the draft at PALS. I've also added your co-authors to this reply, in case any of them aren't (yet) subscribed to the PALS list.

To start the discussion, when I looked through the draft I didn't see any references to RFC 4842, which is more than a bit of an omission. The draft very much needs a general applicability discussion comparing this draft to existing PALS and PWE3 RFCs in your solution space and when this draft should be used rather than existing mechanisms.

Thanks,
Andy


On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 9:50 AM Christian Schmutzer (cschmutz) <cschmutz=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
Dear PALS community,

The authors of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schmutzer-bess-ple have added a new section (5.3) to cover the data plane aspects for 200GE and 400GE.

Based on the input received in the past we also now renamed this individual draft to be directed towards the PALS WG.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schmutzer-pals-ple

We would appreciate your review and feedback

regards
Christian


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