Re: [Pals] I-D Action: draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast-01.txt

["RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Andy,

Thanks for copying me in.

At this stage I have no opinion on publishing this document outside the
IETF (or at all). If the authors believe the document is ready for
publication on the Independent Stream and have read the note on the RFC
Editor web page, they can approach me to ask about publication.

I would, of course, be straight back to the PALS chairs to check that they
don't want to progress this through the working group (it sounds at this
stage that they don't).

And I would need to be convinced of the merits of publishing as an RFC
rather than as a paper, a web page, a wiki, or not at all.

Thanks,
Adrian


Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Weiqiang and Jie,
>
> I would suggest adding references to the BBF documents and limiting this
> draft to what's not already covered there, and using the Independent
> Stream
> to publish this as an implementation note for operators. I've copied the
> ISE for his comments as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:54 PM Stewart Bryant <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Weiqiang Cheng
>>
>> Please can I suggest exploring with David (who I understand is the
>> editor
>> of that BBF text) revising the BBF document to include your case.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>> On 25 Nov 2019, at 10:35, Weiqiang Cheng <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>> Thank you very much for your information.
>> We’ve read the document you provided and the application scenarios and
>> solutions are different from the document.
>> The solution here is intent to give a multicast solution, the OAM and
>> the
>> protection functions in the network which only support p2p PW. The
>> solution
>> is different from the solution in BBF document.
>>
>> B.R.
>> Weiqiang Cheng
>>
>>
>> *发件人:* Pals [mailto:[e-mail] <[e-mail]>]
>> *代表 *David
>> Sinicrope
>> *发送时间:* 2019年11月21日 16:28
>> *收件人:* Stewart Bryant
>> *抄送:* [e-mail]; [e-mail]
>> *主题:* Re: [Pals] I-D Action:
>> draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast-01.txt
>>
>> https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-221_Issue-1.pdf
>> <https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-221_Issue-1.pdf#page98>
>> See Appendix F
>>
>> And
>>
>> https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-224.pdf
>> <https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/download/TR-224.pdf#page71>
>> Section 13
>>
>> Not sure these give the detail needed but they seem to address the same
>> topic as the draft.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Stewart Bryant <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please can the authors help me understand why this is a PALS draft, or
>> indeed why it is a draft at all?
>>
>> I don’t think it proposes to extend the PALS technology. It simply
>> uses
>> PWs to carry L2 (presumably Ethernet) across a provider network,
>> something
>> that PWs already do.
>>
>> Maybe I don’t understand the draft, but this looks like a deployment
>> description that does not need standardisation.
>>
>> Please can the authors help the WG better understand why this needs to
>> be
>> an IETF specification?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>> On 19 Nov 2019, at 14:55, [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>       Title           : Efficient Layer 2 Multicast with Point-to-Point
>> Pseudowires
>>
>>       Authors         : Weiqiang Cheng
>>
>>                         Jie Dong
>>
>>    Filename        : draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast-01.txt
>>
>>    Pages           : 6
>>
>>    Date            : 2019-11-18
>>
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>
>>  Multicast services such as Evolved Multimedia Broadcast/Multicast
>>
>>  Service (eMBMS) become more and more popular in mobile networks.  In
>>
>>  mobile transport network, it is important for the operators to
>>
>>  provide efficient transport of multicast services with existing
>>
>>  network devices.  This document describes a mechanism of using point-
>>
>>  to-point Pseudowires (PW) [RFC3985] to achieve efficient layer 2
>>
>>  multicast transportation in mobile transport networks.The document
>>
>>  gives a multicast method by utilizing a Point-to-Point (P2P) path
>>
>>  between nodes in a packet transport network , according to the
>>
>>  destination IP address.  With it, the PTN nodes can replicate and
>>
>>  forward the service message, which are received from the multicast
>>
>>  server, to the plurality of multicast clients corresponding to the
>>
>>  destination IP address.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast/
>>
>>
>>
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast-01
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast-01
>>
>>
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-cheng-pals-p2p-pw-multicast-01
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission
>>
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
>>
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