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Re: [PANRG] An earlier draft on signaling between network and end-hosts

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 09 November 2018 01:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [PANRG] An earlier draft on signaling between network and end-hosts
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Hi, Markku,

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 5:15 PM Markku Kojo <kojo=
40cs.helsinki.fi@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi, all
>
> in the panrg session yesterday I pointed out an older draft that Pasi,
> Sally and I initiated some 10+ years back:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarolahti-tsvwg-crosslayer-01
>
> Passing through the panrg email archieve after the meeting, I noticed that
> this draft as well as a few other useful docoments were already pointed
> out in the early days of the panrg list when the rg was about to be
> proposed (was not following the list at that time, sorry).
>
> Anyways, this draft started a discussion on existing mechanisms between
> the network and end-hosts and discusses also challenges with such
> mechanisms. Maybe still useful for panrg?
>

Thanks for the reminder! I was vaguely following this research group when
it was proposed, so probably noticed the discussion and then started doing
telechat reviews and forgot everything except where my diet Pepsi was.

Spencer

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