Re: [PANRG] I-D Action: draft-irtf-panrg-questions-10.txt

Hi, Brian, and *my apologies to Theresa in advance,*

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:51 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi Brian, all,
>
> When checking the diff, I'm not sure to parse what is meant by "control
> plane address". Do you mean "some kind of locator"? something else?
>

I swear, I was trying to help, with what follows ...

One reasonable response to Med's reasonable question would be "I mean what
appears in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-panrg-path-properties-03,
but a quick scan of that draft (also an RG draft, of course) for "plane"
pops up these two occurrences:

   Entity:  A physical or virtual device or function, or a collection of
      devices or functions, which can, for example, process packets,
      measure path properties, or access information about paths.  With
      respect to a given communication, an entity may be on the *data*
*      plane* or *control plane*, and it may be on-path or off-path.

with no further definitions.

Given that we do have the path-properties draft, and that Med's question is
reasonable, and other PANRG drafts may also use control plane/data plane
terminology, would it also be reasonable to define those terms in
path-properties, so that they mean what we intend them to mean?

Best,

Spencer

Cheers,
> Med
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : I-D-Announce <i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de
> internet-
> > drafts@ietf.org
> > Envoyé : lundi 11 octobre 2021 15:33
> > À : i-d-announce@ietf.org
> > Cc : panrg@irtf.org
> > Objet : I-D Action: draft-irtf-panrg-questions-10.txt
> >
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> > directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Path Aware Networking RG RG of the IRTF.
> >
> >         Title           : Current Open Questions in Path Aware Networking
> >         Author          : Brian Trammell
> >       Filename        : draft-irtf-panrg-questions-10.txt
> >       Pages           : 10
> >       Date            : 2021-10-11
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    In contrast to the present Internet architecture, a path-aware
> >    internetworking architecture has two important properties: it exposes
> >    the properties of available Internet paths to endpoints, and provides
> >    for endpoints and applications to use these properties to select
> >    paths through the Internet for their traffic.  While this property of
> >    "path awareness" already exists in many Internet-connected networks
> >    within single domains and via administrative interfaces to the
> >    network layer, a fully path-aware internetwork expands these concepts
> >    across layers and across the Internet.
> >
> >    This document poses questions in path-aware networking open as of
> >    2021, that must be answered in the design, development, and
> >    deployment of path-aware internetworks.  It was originally written to
> >    frame discussions in the Path Aware Networking proposed Research
> >    Group (PANRG), and has been published to snapshot current thinking in
> >    this space.
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-panrg-questions/
> >
> > There is also an HTML version available at:
> > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-irtf-panrg-questions-10.html
> >
> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-panrg-questions-10
> >
> >
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> >
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