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Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 20 December 2017 01:31 UTC
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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:31:00 -0500
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Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> wrote: > On the other hand as that configuration is so common, lots of IoT > devices have "call home" protocol, i.e., they will periodically > connect to some home server and ask if there is anything they need to > do, and this allows attack vector for attacking those devices. that is, "Web Connected Devices", rather IoT, which would: > IoT is quite often used to mean devices that do machine to machine > communications, i.e., where there is no user or user interface on the > device. I.e., the thermostat sending temperature, or fetching the > configuration from the cloud or local server. > For those devices connecting random IP-address in the world is not > usually needed. They only communicate with the machines they are > configured to communicate with and thats it. These devices have also Thermostat sending temperature to furnace would be IoT. Thermostat sending temperature to cloud so that furnace can retrieve it is Web Connected Device. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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