Re: [Patient] recent thoughts from a mr chatham
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Subject: Re: [Patient] recent thoughts from a mr chatham
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And actually the mic was not working. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Patient] recent thoughts from a mr chatham > Local Time: 14 December 2017 6:03 PM > UTC Time: 14 December 2017 17:03 > From: Arnaud.Taddei.IETF@protonmail.com > To: Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> > Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, patient@ietf.org <patient@ietf.org>, Brian Witten <brian_witten@symantec.com>, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> > > Thank you Brian for sharing both the Internet Draft and the minutes. > > To Paul, it was particularly hard for me to take the minutes that evening, first time at IETF, not knowing most of you, not always hearing correctly each accent and not accustomed to a lot of aspects of this team. I hope you will give me a chance to improve. > > However I do not buy at all the fact that I tried to orientate anything in taking the minutes. I respect all the opinions the team has and as a French person said 'I can disagree with you but I will make all what I can for your opinion can be heard'. > > The room was very packed I heard what I heard on the mic but I couldn't hear everyone in every part of the room. If any specifics is missing please help us understand what so that we can improve the minutes, this is pretty simple. > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Patient] recent thoughts from a mr chatham >> Local Time: 14 December 2017 3:11 AM >> UTC Time: 14 December 2017 02:11 >> From: jordan.ietf@gmail.com >> To: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> >> patient@ietf.org <patient@ietf.org>, Brian Witten <brian_witten@symantec.com>, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> >> >> Thanks for the clarification Kathleen. >> >> Bret >> >> Sent from my Commodore 128D >> >> PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050 >> >> On Dec 13, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 13 Dec 2017, Brian Witten wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Given the amount of ground that was covered in the recent discussion, many >>> >>>>> good points were raised from many diverse perspectives, and capturing them >>> >>>>> digitally helps others who could not >>> >>>>> travel for the event. I've been reminded (Thank You Again!) of the Note >>> >>>>> Well, that all discussions at IETF events are contributions for the record, >>> >>>>> but in this case, names were not >>> >>>>> recorded except for myself and Arnaud to make questions & corrections >>> >>>>> easiest. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Note that the attached minutes does not reflect the discussion we >>> >>>> actually had. There was a large part of the room that completely >>> >>>> disagreed with this approach that has not made it onto the minutes, >>> >>>> including my own comments and questions. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It would help for next meeting, if we can meet with proper remote >>> >>>> participation and recording support, and even better, a desinterested >>> >>>> minute taker. >>> >>> That would require a BoF, this was a bar BoF. If one is requested and >>> approved, that will all be possible. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Paul >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> PATIENT mailing list >>> >>>> PATIENT@ietf.org >>> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/patient >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Kathleen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PATIENT mailing list >>> PATIENT@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/patient
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- Re: [Patient] recent thoughts from a mr chatham Arnaud.Taddei.IETF
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