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Re: [paws] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-paws-protocol-14: (with DISCUSS)

Ray Bellis <Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk> Tue, 02 September 2014 10:29 UTC

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From: Ray Bellis <Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [paws] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-paws-protocol-14: (with DISCUSS)
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On 21 Aug 2014, at 20:49, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

> Nothing really to do with IESG processing of this but I'm
> curious...
> 
> Is the full DB information really considered public? My
> impression was rather that trying to extract the full DB
> of information via repeated queries would be frowned upon.

[apologies for the late reply to the thread - I've been on vacation]

That's certainly the case with OFCOM in the UK.  DB operators are supposed to prevent large scale mining of the database even if the result of an individual query might be considered "public".  In particular the 100m DTT pixel data is derived from Arqiva's TV transmission information and they consider that commercially sensitive.

[In some respects this is somewhat like my employer's domain business - the "whois" for an individual domain is publicly available, but we come down very hard on anybody caught attempting to mine the entire database].

Ray

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