[payload] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06: (with COMMENT)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 19 June 2018 13:54 UTC

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Subject: [payload] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06: (with COMMENT)
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Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06: No Objection

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Rich version of this review at:
https://mozphab-ietf.devsvcdev.mozaws.net/D4183


I am not sure that this specification can be interoperably
implemented. I have noted a number of points below. I believe these
are largely minor and so have not made this a DISCUSS, but it is
important they be resolved.

This document would also benefit from significant editorial work.
Based on S  4.5.1, I take the structure to be that you start with the
VC-2 stream and then use RTP headers to contain the information in
Parse Info blocks. If that is correct, it would be much clearer if
stated upfront.



IMPORTANT
S 4.2.
>   
>      The fields of the extended headers are defined as follows:
>   
>      Extended Sequence Number: 16 bits  MUST Contain the high-order
>            16-bits of the 32-bit packet sequence number, a number which
>            increments with each packet.  This is needed since the high

Increments by one?


S 4.2.
>            data rates of VC2 Sequences mean that it is highly likely that
>            the 16-bit sequence number will roll-over too frequently to be
>            of use for stream synchronisation.
>   
>      B: 1 bit  MUST be set to 1 if the packet contains the first byte of
>            an Auxiliary Data or Padded Data Unit.

And otherwise must be 0?


S 4.2.
>   
>      B: 1 bit  MUST be set to 1 if the packet contains the first byte of
>            an Auxiliary Data or Padded Data Unit.
>   
>      E: 1 bit  MUST be set to 1 if the packet contains the final byte of
>            an Auxiliary Data or Padded Data Unit.

And otherwise must be 0?


S 4.2.
>            from a new picture until all the coded data from the current
>            picture has been sent.
>   
>            If the receiver does not receive a transform parameters packet
>            for a picture then it MAY assume that the parameters are
>            unchanged since the last picture, or MAY discard the picture.

How does this interact with packet loss?

COMMENTS
S 3.
>      the decoder.
>   
>      Each Sequence consists of a series of 13-octet Parse Info headers and
>      variable length Data Units.  The Sequence begins and ends with a
>      Parse Info header and each Data Unit is preceded by a Parse Info
>      Header.  Data Units come in a variety of types, the most important

This text isn't very clear to me. Is the following valid: PI | Data |
PI? How about PI | PI | Data | PI.  PI | PI | PI | Data | PI?




S 3.
>      should not be assumed.
>   
>      The High Quality (HQ) profile for VC-2 restricts the types of Parse
>      Info Headers which may appear in the Sequence to only:
>   
>      o  Sequence Headers,

The text above says that Sequence Headers are a type of Data Unit. So
I'm confused by this text.


S 4.
>   
>   4.  Payload format
>   
>      This specification only covers the transport of Sequence Headers,
>      High Quality Fragments, Auxiliary Data, and (optionally) End of
>      Sequence Headers and Padding Data.

So it doesn't include Parse Info?


S 4.
>         Picture (Figure 2),
>   
>      o  A Picture Fragment containing VC-2 Coded Slices (Figure 3) for a
>         picture,
>   
>      o  The end of a VC-2 Sequence (Figure 4)

It would be helpful if you cited specific sections of VC-2 for these.


S 4.
>      .                                                               .
>      +---------------------------------------------------------------+
>   
>                  Figure 6: RTP Payload Format For Padding Data
>   
>      All fields in the headers longer than a single bit are interprted as

Nit: interpreted.


S 4.2.
>   
>      Data Length: 32 bits  For an auxiliary data unit this contains the
>            number of bytes of data contained in the uncoded payload
>            section of this packet.  For a Padding Data Unit this field may
>            have any value and simply indicates the size of the recommended
>            padding.

This seems like a very large field given that RTP datagrams are almost
never this large, so I am suspecting the "uncoded payload" means pre-
compressed? Can you be clearer..