[payload] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06: (with COMMENT)
James Barrett <James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk> Fri, 06 July 2018 11:18 UTC
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From: James Barrett <James.Barrett@bbc.co.uk>
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Thread-Topic: Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06:
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Subject: [payload] Adam Roach's No Objection on
draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06: (with COMMENT)
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I believe the order of importance for packets would be: 1. Sequence Headers 2. Fragments containing Transform Parameters 3. Other Fragments 4. Auxiliary Data and End of Sequence 5. Padding -- James P. Weaver (né Barrett) Research Engineer BBC R&D North Lab, Floor 5 Dock House, MediaCity, M50 2LH Tel: +44(0)30 3040-9521 e-mail: james.barrett@bbc.co.uk > On 19 Jun 2018, at 21:01, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote: > > Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-06: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for the work on this document. > > Given that the underlying format doesn't appear to be resilient to loss, I'm a > little surprised to see no discussion of FEC; and, in particular, no treatment > of the allocation of unequal error protection to the various packet types. For > example, it sounds like the transform parameters packet is significantly more > important than, e.g., a picture fragment that contains slices. I suspect there > is a general prioritization among the various types that would useful to call > out for implementors. > >
- [payload] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf… Adam Roach
- [payload] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf… James Barrett