Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payload format I-D
Antonin Descampe <a.descampe@intopix.com> Tue, 19 June 2018 15:07 UTC
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Thread-Topic: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payload format I-D
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Subject: Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payload format I-D
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Hi, Many thanks for the review. We will update the document accordingly and upload a new version. Let us know if anything else needs to be done for the WG to formally adopt it. Kind regards, Antonin > Le 19 juin 2018 à 15:52, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> a écrit : > > Hi, > I did an initial review, in general the document is in line with the WG charter so we can ask the WG to adopt the document. > Yet, after reviewing the document I suggest that you will provide another revision of the individual draft. > > My comments are editorial in order to have the document follow the RTP payload structure > > 1. I suggest you look at RFC 8088 (RTP howto) and also at recent RTP payload for video codecs (RFC7741 and draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq) > 2. The media type definition should use the template defined in [RFC6838] and following [RFC4855]. See one of the above RTP payloads > 3. Any parameter that goes into the fmtp line should be in the media type definition as required or optional. > 4. The offer answer consideration should have an example (I am not sure what is the "encode" parameter). > 5. I suggest that the header fields in table 1 should be as a list and not as a table > 6. In the RTP header according to RFRC3550 "The initial value of the timestamp SHOULD be random" , the wallclock should be in the RTCP SR and RR reports. (BTW: you can look at RFC7273 about clock sources) > 7.The RTP header in figure 2 is missing the CSRC field and the place holder for RTP header extensions > 8. Section 1 should include at least the content of the abstract > 9. In section 2 there is no need to have a subsection for each term. > 10. In section 2.10 [see there], where is there? > 11. you do not need section 4.1 and the start of 4.2 I suggest "This section describes how the jepeg xs video stream is encapsulated > in RTP. To handle network losses, usage of RTP/AVPF [RFC4585] is RECOMMENDED. " > 12. A general comment , the document defines slice, slice group, fragment and frame multiple times, please define just once (section 2 or 3) and use the terms later. > > If you have any questions I am here to help > > Thanks > Roni Even > Payload WG co-chair > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: payload [mailto:payload-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sébastien Lugan > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 1:29 AM > To: payload@ietf.org > Cc: Alexandre Willème; Gaël Rouvroy > Subject: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payload format I-D > > Dear IETF Payload WG, > > We recently uploaded a new RTP payload format I-D for transporting JPEG XS encoded video: > > RTP Payload Format for ISO/IEC 21122 (JPEG XS) > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lugan-payload-rtp-jpegxs/ > > Authors: > S. Lugan, G. Rouvroy, A. Descampe (intoPIX) > T. Richter (Fraunhofer IIS) > A. Willeme (Université catholique de Louvain) > > Filename: draft-lugan-payload-rtp-jpegxs-00.txt > > Abstract: > This document specifies a Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) payload > format to be used for transporting ISO/IEC 21122 (JPEG XS) encoded > video. ISO/IEC 21122 (JPEG XS) is a low-latency, lightweight image > coding system allowing for an increased resolution and frame rate, > while offering visually lossless quality with reduced amount of > resources such as power and bandwidth. > > Might we kindly ask you to review this I-D and send your comments? > > Many thanks in advance, > > Best regards, > -- > Sébastien Lugan > > _______________________________________________ > payload mailing list > payload@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > _______________________________________________ > payload mailing list > payload@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… John Fletcher
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Antonin Descampe
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Roni Even (A)
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Thomas Edwards
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Antonin Descampe
- [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payload … Sébastien Lugan
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Sébastien Lugan
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Thomas Edwards
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… John Fletcher
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… James Sandford
- Re: [payload] Review request for JPEG XS RTP payl… Roni Even (A)