Re: [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applicability draft - draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app-04
Ravi Torvi <pratiravi@gmail.com> Tue, 04 June 2013 17:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applicability draft - draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app-04
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Hi Ina & Authors, Now that we have new WG charter, I think it is a good time to clarify applicability of PCE-Stateful. Following are some of my observations that can be considered in your next revisions of draft: 1. We need to scope the PCE-Stateful applicability, i.e., clarify explicitly where vanilla PCE can be sufficient or PCE-Stateful could be an overkill. - Similarly, it would be nice to describe deployments of Passive Stateful PCE and with Active Stateful PCE separately I think draft describes goodness of Stateful well, however, it should provide guidelines for choosing right set of PCE-stateful features. Few basic applications (I am not sure this draft covers them explicitly) from PCC Scale point of view: 2. I think draft should describe on performance w/ PCE-Stateful i.e., How PCE Stateful helps in dynamic changes compared to NMS based. 3. One obvious applicability of Active PCE-Stateful would be : config scaling. Operators do not have to maintain tons of LSP configuration on the box. 4. LSP monitoring is less expensive with PCE Stateful, as PCE is expected to maintain complete state. This reduces burden on routers. Thanks, Ravi http://www.google.com/profiles/pratiravi On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote: > Ina, WG,**** > > ** ** > > Pleased to see people thinking about applicability and use cases. IMHO, > not enough attention is paid to why we are doing things and how they will > be used. **** > > ** ** > > Thanks for the work, and hope people will review it (especially service > providers!)**** > > ** ** > > Adrian**** > > ** ** > > *From:* pce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ina > Minei > *Sent:* 26 May 2013 22:52 > *To:* pce@ietf.org > *Subject:* [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applicability draft - > draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app-04**** > > ** ** > > A new version of the stateful pce applicability draft was posted > yesterday. **** > > **** > > In the interest of making progress on this document, the authors would > like to solicit review, comments and discussion from the working group, > before the next IETF meeting. **** > > **** > > **** > > URL: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app-04.txt > **** > > Status: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app**** > > Htmlized: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app-04**** > > Diff: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-zhang-pce-stateful-pce-app-04**** > > **** > > **** > > Ina and Xian on behalf of all the authors**** > > **** > > _______________________________________________ > Pce mailing list > Pce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce > >
- [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applicabili… Ina Minei
- Re: [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applica… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applica… Ravi Torvi
- Re: [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applica… Zhangxian (Xian)
- Re: [Pce] New version of the stateful pce applica… Ina Minei