[Pce] Re: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-35: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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Hi Aijun,

In the -34 thread Dhruv and I suggested reverting the MUSTs to normal language words and not RFC 2119 keywords. For what it's worth, I think the reversion would still be responsive to Roman’s DISCUSS (and would be less likely to cause any further concerns). Perhaps Roman can confirm, though.

Thanks,

—John

On Aug 23, 2024, at 3:32 AM, Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> wrote:

Hi, Roman:

Thanks for your suggestions.
I have updated the "SHOULD" in these sections to "MUST", to eliminate the ambiguity.
I have parsed all the content of this document and update "SHOULD" with "MUST" selectively according to their necessity.
The updated draft will be uploaded soon to reflect the above changes.


Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom




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DISCUSS:
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In -35 a number of changes to the IANA considerations were introduced.
Specifically, various "shoulds" were replaced with "SHOULDs".  This has created
ambiguity in the following:

-- Section 13.4,
  The reference for the new Error-type/value SHOULD be set to this
  document.

-- Section 13.5
  Each bit SHOULD be tracked with the following qualities:

-- Section 13.6
  Each
  value SHOULD be tracked with the following qualities: value, meaning,
  and defining RFC.

-- Section 13.7
  Each value SHOULD
  be tracked with the following qualities:

-- Section 13.8
  Each bit
  SHOULD be tracked with the following qualities:

What isn't clear when IANA would choose not to track these qualities or set the
values.  Why create this ambiguity?


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COMMENT:
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Thank you to Mallory Knodel for the GENART review.

Thank for addressing my COMMENT feedback and initial DISCUSS position.



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