Re: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Thu, 01 November 2007 12:48 UTC
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From: Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
Subject: Re: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:48:43 +0200
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On 2007-11-1, at 14:25, ext ben.strulo@bt.com wrote: > I am not particularly convinced that probing is a good route to go > down, > and I suspect that PCN will have a great deal of difficulty in working > well with ECMP. I'm happy to hear I'm not alone on this :-) > On the other hand I think that there can be reasonable scenarios where > PCN can be engineered to make flow termination (caused by > over-admission) extremely unlikely without completely changing the > architecture. I have in mind scenarios where the safety margin is > large, and the admission process is carefully managed (and aggregation > levels are large). The question that most interests me then is how > well > does PCN perform? How large does the safety margin need to be? How > tightly capped does admission control need to be? These are exactly the right questions to ask. When we chartered PCN, the intuition was that flow admission and termination combined with a sufficient degree of over-provisioning and the right marking behavior result in a simple and useful system that would establish a degree of QoS. The question is now how exactly we need to define the parameters to derive such a system for a given network scenario. > I do not have complete answers, but the work we have done so far leads > me to believe that there are credible scenarios in which (some version > of) PCN is an appropriate and reasonably efficient solution. I'm happy to hear folks are working on this - I believe that understanding which scenarios are appropriate for solving with PCN techniques (vs. other techniques such as path-coupled reservations) is important. > My chief concern then is to ensure that the PCN WG chooses options > that > work as well as possible in as many scenarios as possible. If you add "while remaining architecturally simple and robust", I completely agree. Lars
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- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario ben.strulo
- [PCN] traffic matrix scenario philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Lars Eggert
- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario ben.strulo
- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Lars Eggert
- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario ben.strulo
- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Lars Eggert
- Re: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Lars Eggert
- RE: [PCN] traffic matrix scenario Geib, Ruediger