RE: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & general updates.
"Geib, Ruediger" <Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com> Tue, 23 October 2007 14:19 UTC
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From: "Geib, Ruediger" <Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com>
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Hi Anna, thanks, I understand your explanation. Regards, Rudiger |-----Original Message----- |From: Anna Charny (acharny) [mailto:acharny@cisco.com] |Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:38 PM |To: Geib, Rudiger |Cc: pcn@ietf.org |Subject: RE: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & general |updates. | | |Hi Ruediger, | |I meant roughly the following. Suppose many ingress-egress aggregates |have on the average 1 flow. If you have just one flow per |ingress-egress aggregate, when this flow arrives and is the only one |active in its ingress-egress pair, and if no probing of any kind is |used, then effectively there is no admission control for this |aggregate. If many such aggregates share a bottleneck, then |effectively all these ingress-egress aggregates have to be admitted |regardless of the state of the bottleneck. In the extreme, if all |ingress-egress aggregates sharing a bottleneck consist of one flow, |then this bottleneck effectively does not have any admission control. |In such situations probing might be quite useful, as it will enable |admission control. | |Of course one does not have to require that *all* ingress-egress |aggregates sharing a bottleneck have just one flow to have a similar |problem - just enough of them on the average to take a substantial |share of the bottleneck bandwidth. | |Does it make sense? |Anna | |> -----Original Message----- |> From: Geib, Ruediger [mailto:Ruediger.Geib@t-systems.com] |> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:26 AM |> To: Anna Charny (acharny) |> Cc: pcn@ietf.org |> Subject: RE: [PCN] Architecture draft - probing section & |> general updates. |> |> Anna, |> |> could you re-write your point? I don't get the sense completely. |> |> Thanks, |> |> Rudiger |> |> |> | - should the WG consider the case when expected number of |> flows on |> |very large number of ingress-egress aggregates sharing a |> bottleneck has |> |on the order of *one* flow. Note that this is the case |when probing |> |might be needed. |> | _______________________________________________ PCN mailing list PCN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn
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