Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN meeting
"Georgios Karagiannis" <karagian@cs.utwente.nl> Thu, 20 March 2008 09:03 UTC
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From: Georgios Karagiannis <karagian@cs.utwente.nl>
To: "'Anna Charny (acharny)'" <acharny@cisco.com>, 'Steven Blake' <steven.blake@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN meeting
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Hi Anna Please see in line! > -----Original Message----- > From: Anna Charny (acharny) [mailto:acharny@cisco.com] > Sent: woensdag 19 maart 2008 17:43 > To: Georgios Karagiannis; Steven Blake > Cc: pcn@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN meeting > > Georgios, > > Please see below: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of > > Georgios Karagiannis > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:25 AM > > To: 'Steven Blake' > > Cc: pcn@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN meeting > > > > Hi Steven > > > > Please see that I have included some information into the > last bullet: > > > > - There is an ingress-egress aggregate whose traffic is > split across > > multiple paths via ECMP. > > - Traffic is admitted along this split path. > > - One (or more) of the paths fails. > > - One (or more) of the remaining paths becomes severely congested > > (for > > example because there is traffic from other ingress-egress > > aggregates flowing along that path). > > - <<Due to the ECMP routing not congested paths will > forward packets > > belonging to > > the same ingress-egress-aggregate that will be unmarked.>> > > But these rerouted and previously unmarked packets will be > marked on the congested interface, would they not? Georgios: If they are not passing throug the severely congested node, they will not be marked! Best regards, Georgios > > Anna > > > Marked packets are > > preferentially dropped at the severely congested > > router(s). As a consequence, not enough marked traffic arrives at > > the egress router to drive the CLE for the ingress-egress aggregate > > above the threshold needed to trigger a response (termination, say). > > > > > > Best regards, > > Georgios > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steven Blake [mailto:steven.blake@ericsson.com] > > > Sent: woensdag 19 maart 2008 16:17 > > > To: Georgios Karagiannis > > > Cc: pcn@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN meeting > > > > > > Georgios, > > > > > > Let me try to paraphrase the scenario you are describing: > > > > > > - There is an ingress-egress aggregate whose traffic is > split across > > > multiple paths via ECMP. > > > - Traffic is admitted along this split path. > > > - One (or more) of the paths fails. > > > - One (or more) of the remaining paths becomes severely > > congested (for > > > example because there is traffic from other ingress-egress > > > aggregates > > > flowing along that path). > > > - Marked packets are preferentially dropped at the severely > > congested > > > router(s). As a consequence, not enough marked traffic > > arrives at > > > the > > > egress router to drive the CLE for the ingress-egress aggregate > > > above > > > the threshold needed to trigger a response (termination, say). > > > > > > Does this description accurately capture your scenario? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > Steven Blake <steven.blake@ericsson.com> > > > Ericsson/Redback Networks +1 919-472-9913 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PCN mailing list > > PCN@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn > > > _______________________________________________ PCN mailing list PCN@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn
- [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN mee… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… toby.moncaster
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- [PCN] [Fwd: RE: Concensus questions from Thursday… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Wei Gengyu
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… toby.moncaster
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Wei Gengyu
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Anna Charny (acharny)
- [PCN] Fw: Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Wei Gengyu
- [PCN] On pcn and overloads (was: Concensus questi… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] On pcn and overloads (was: Concensus qu… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] On pcn and overloads (was: Concensus qu… Anna Charny (acharny)
- Re: [PCN] On pcn and overloads (was: Concensus qu… toby.moncaster
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- [PCN] Georgios's example philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Steven Blake
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] Concensus questions from Thursday's PCN… philip.eardley