[pcp] PANA and PCP port sharing (was Re: Comparison of PCP authentication)
Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@yegin.org> Fri, 17 August 2012 08:36 UTC
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Subject: [pcp] PANA and PCP port sharing (was Re: Comparison of PCP authentication)
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> > Encapsulation/tunneling approach: > - Pros: No impact on PANA specification > - Cons: Encapsulation overhead > > Demultiplexing/port-sharing approach: > - Pros: No encapsulation overhead > - Cons: Impact on PANA specification (an Update of RFC 5191 is needed > on the use of "Reserved" field.) > I prefer the latter approach as this seems to be most straightforward. Yoshi and I exchanged some emails to figure out what needs to be done, and here's the finding: We have 16 Reserved bits in PANA header. Bits 5-6-7 will be used for demux'ing between PANA and PCP when the two are run over the PCP port. PCP version 2 sets the values to 0-1-0 and future versions would be 0-1-1, 1-0-0, … 1-1-1 -- should be enough. PCP-spec would state the following: - When PANA is executed over the PCP port, sender shall set the Bits 5-6-7 to 0-0-0 and the receiver shall ignore them. (Other reserved bits and Bits 5-6-7 when used over ports other than PCP port are still governed by RC 5191). RFC 5191 will include an "Updated by RFC(PCP-spec)". Alper > Hope this helps, > Yoshihiro Ohba > > (2012/08/16 11:47), Zhangdacheng (Dacheng) wrote: >> Have we got any conclusions on two approaches? Or we can just support >> the two options in the draft for the moment and briefly compare their >> pros and cons, can we? >> >> Cheers >> >> Dcheng >> >> *From:*pcp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcp-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Margaret Wasserman >> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 3:21 AM >> *To:* Dan Wing >> *Cc:* pcp@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [pcp] Comparison of PCP authentication >> >> On Aug 9, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Dan Wing wrote: >> >> If I'm updating security policy on a firewall I want to be able to >> >> audit whether that actually happened. That requires >> authentication. >> >> >> You are saying a PCP client would only want to update firewall >> policies >> if the PCP server supports authentication, otherwise it would tell the >> user that it cannot enable the webcam, Internet-connected NAS, >> Internet-connected printer, etc.? >> >> I wont presume to guess what Sam is thinking... >> >> However, I am thinking that there will be some clients that are >> configured to perform authentication for every request. For example, >> there is no reason for a PCP proxy, running in an environment where >> authentication is required to do a THIRD-PARTY request, to perform a >> useless round-trip for every THIRD-PARTY request it issues. >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pcp mailing list >> pcp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcp >> > > _______________________________________________ > pcp mailing list > pcp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcp
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- Re: [pcp] Comparison of PCP authentication Margaret Wasserman
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