Re: [Pearg] Call for Adoption: Two drafts on Numeric IDs

Daniel Kahn Gillmor <> Thu, 22 August 2019 03:20 UTC

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Hi pearg folks--

On Wed 2019-08-07 12:56:35 +0100, Sara Dickinson wrote:
> This email starts a two week Call for Adoption for two of these drafts which have been proposed as suitable work for PEARG:
> 1) Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers:
> 2) On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers:

I think these drafts should be adopted by the PEARG.  Thanks to Fernando
for his persistence in working on them thus far!

At the IETF we've had a difficult time thinking systemically about these
problems, both for security and privacy implications.

The work in these drafts is some of the only attempts i've seen at a
larger overview of IETF work, looking for patterns, trying to learn from
our past mistakes, and formulating guidance for future IETF work based
on that research.  It's all done with an eye toward privacy concerns as
well, something we have traditionally not been as good about within the

This is precisely the sort of research that i think the IRTF should be
supporting in PEARG.

As for the two documents -- i don't have a strong feeling about whether
they should stay separate or merged together, and i don't think it's
something that we need to decide before RG adoption.  For maintenance
work, i think it's useful to be able to update the documents in the
future separately.  if we have new guidance for generation there's no
need to update the history draft.  and if someone uncovers some
additional use of transient numeric identifiers, we can update the
history draft without needing to touch the guidance document.