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Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org>
To: "Eliot Lear (elear)" <elear@cisco.com>
CC: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org>, "pearg@irtf.org" <pearg@irtf.org>, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"
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We're not going to describe all the non-technical methods of suppressing flows of data and information. Even a comma-separated list would not be terribly useful. I can find some sort of review article but it's bound to be incomplete or have some other default. We felt the need to point out that there is other nuance and pressure points but as the document says it's primarily focused on technical network censorship.

If you brought text, we would is course consider it.

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From: Eliot Lear (elear) <elear@cisco.com>
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To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org>
Cc: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>; Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org>; pearg@irtf.org <pearg@irtf.org>; Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
Subject: Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"

Ok so now the use of the term ”non-technical“ is confusing.  If physical seizures are in scope but Legal/economic jeopardy isn’t...

Eliot

On May 28, 2020, at 20:34, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org> wrote:


Nope.

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From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 1:49:57 PM
To: Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org>
Cc: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org>; pearg@irtf.org <pearg@irtf.org>; Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
Subject: Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"

Ah- ok.  Then probably a section title change in Section 6 to clarify.

> On 28 May 2020, at 19:48, Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> wrote:
>
> On 5/28/20 12:26 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>
>> I think there’s a bigger threat that you should probably mention from a non-technical perspective: liability laws.  I don’t know where I came up with that idea!!!
>
> Out of scope for this doc, but yes holy shit.
>
> -M
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