Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy

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+1 interested in attending
Joey Salazar
Digital Sr. Programme Officer
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On 18-Nov-20 3:43 PM, Philipp Pfeiffenberger wrote:
I am also interested in attending, representing YouTube Trust & Safety.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:41 PM David Turner <> wrote:
+ Philipp

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM Per Bjorke <> wrote:
I'm also interesting in attending (I'm on Google's invalid traffic/ad fraud team together with David Turner).



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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:10 AM David Turner <> wrote:

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:01 AM David Turner <> wrote:
I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the Google Ad Traffic Quality team.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <> wrote:
I'd very much be interested in attending.


On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <> wrote:
Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as well.


On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo <> wrote:
Hi Chris,

I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how the privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the other mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness). 


On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <> wrote:
I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on Willful IP Blindness.


On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <> wrote:
Hi, Chris,

Some of us have done some work in this area. For example:

* RFC7707
* RFC7721
* RFC7217
* RFC8064
* draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis

That said, my comments and questions are:

* I'd be interested in attending

* Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you have any
proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically?  Or is possible
future work up for discussion?)

* I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of interest.
If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation to
provide an overview, I'd be happy to.



On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote:
> The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the topic of IP address privacy.
> IP address uses:
> - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection
> - Geo IP
> - Ad targeting
> - ... others?
> Privacy attacks:
> - IP re-identification
> - IP-based fingerprinting
> IP hiding or blindness:
> - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network)
> - Willful IP Blindness (" rel="noreferrer noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">
> The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might turn it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful.
> We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd like to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome!
> Best,
> Chris, on behalf of the chairs

Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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