Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy

+Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com>

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:01 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote:

> I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the Google Ad
> Traffic Quality team.
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen=
> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> I'd very much be interested in attending.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as well.
>>>
>>> -Brad
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo <chelsea.komlo@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how the
>>>> privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the other
>>>> mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness).
>>>>
>>>> Chelsea
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on
>>>>> Willful IP Blindness.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * RFC7707
>>>>>> * RFC7721
>>>>>> * RFC7217
>>>>>> * RFC8064
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, my comments and questions are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * I'd be interested in attending
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you have
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically?  Or is possible
>>>>>> future work up for discussion?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of
>>>>>> interest.
>>>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation to
>>>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote:
>>>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the
>>>>>> topic of IP address privacy.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > IP address uses:
>>>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection
>>>>>> > - Geo IP
>>>>>> > - Ad targeting
>>>>>> > - ... others?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Privacy attacks:
>>>>>> > - IP re-identification
>>>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > IP hiding or blindness:
>>>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network)
>>>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness (https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might
>>>>>> turn it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd like
>>>>>> to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an
>>>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of
>>>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Fernando Gont
>>>>>> SI6 Networks
>>>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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