Re: [Pearg] [Maprg] Guidelines for Performing Safe Measurement on the Internet

Kevin Borgolte <kevin@iseclab.org> Thu, 13 December 2018 22:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Pearg] [Maprg] Guidelines for Performing Safe Measurement on the Internet
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Hi Iain,

I agree with Lars that there is a ton of prior work that needs to be included. To me, the current draft reads a bit obvious for folks involved in the area already, but does not provide enough detail for novice researchers. Particular for novices, an Informational RFC detailing best practices for active and passive measurements would certainly be useful, so that digging through tens of existing documents (of which some may not be available anymore) isn't strictly necessary (effectively a systemization of knowledge).

A resource that should be included is the Menlo report [1] and its companion [2].

I'm not a fan of the current active/passive split with the note that "some parts may apply to both." For this kind of RFC, I expect people to only read what they think is applicable, e.g., concerning passive measurements, thus possibly missing out on crucial information that is in the active measurements section. I recommend to restructure it with a "general considerations" section upfront.

The current draft is still a bit too bare-bones for me to provide more in-depth feedback. It should be broader and provide more detail and references in multiple sections that are currently just one sentence long each. I'm sure some of the references Lars mentioned will help to expand the sections. Please keep us posted for major updates!

Best,
Kevin

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menlo_Report
[2] https://www.impactcybertrust.org/link_docs/Menlo-Report-Companion.pdf


> On Dec 11, 2018, at 09:13, Iain Learmonth <irl@torproject.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lars,
> 
> On 11/12/2018 14:03, Lars Eggert wrote:
>> there is a ton of prior work in this space. See http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2015/netethics.php for starters. I am sure there are other PAM or IMC keynotes or presentations on this. It would be useful to build on this prior work.
> 
> Thanks for the pointer! I've added an issue [0] to my GitHub repo and
> will be sure to look through these.
> 
> Another resource I'm planning to draw on would be CAIDA's  Promotion of
> Data Sharing [1] webpage, and the references there, which contains a lot
> of discussion regarding passive measurement.
> 
> Thanks,
> Iain.
> 
> [0]: https://github.com/irl/draft-safe-internet-measurement/issues/1
> [1]: https://www.caida.org/data/sharing/
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