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Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org> Tue, 21 July 2020 16:04 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Thank you, Stephane! Will work on that

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________________________________
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:55:32 AM
To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org>
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-04.txt

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:21:04PM +0200,
 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote
 a message of 66 lines which said:

> > [Zmijewski-2014]
> >              Zmijewski, E., "Turkish Internet Censorship Takes a New
> >              Turn", 2014, <http://www.renesys.com/2014/03/turkish-
> >              internet-censorship/>.
>
> Moved (without a redirect) with all the Renesys content, after being
> bought by Oracle. It is now
> <https://blogs.oracle.com/internetintelligence/turkish-internet-censorship-takes-a-new-turn>

Speaking of bibliography, there are also a few URLs to change:

>  [Bentham-1791]
>              Bentham, J., "Panopticon Or the Inspection House", 1791,
>              <https://books.google.com/books/about/
>              Panopticon_Or_the_Inspection_House.html>.

Not found. Probably <https://books.google.fr/books?id=Ec4TAAAAQAAJ>

>   [Cowie-2011]
>              Cowie, J., "Egypt Leaves the Internet", 2011,
>              <http://www.renesys.com/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-
>              internet/>.

Moved without redirect. Did not find a copy but there are these slides
<https://archive.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Tuesday/LT-Cowie-Egypt%20Leaves%20The%20Internet.pdf>

> [Cowie-2011b]
>             Cowie, J., "Libyan Disconnect", 2011,
>              <http://www.renesys.com/2011/02/libyan-disconnect-1/>.

Moved without redirect.

> [Dalek-2013]
>              Dalek, J., "A Method for Identifying and Confirming the
>              Use of URL Filtering Products for Censorship", 2013,
>              <http://www.cs.stonybrook.edu/~phillipa/papers/imc112s-
>              dalek.pdf>.

Not found. Use instead
<http://conferences.sigcomm.org/imc/2013/papers/imc112s-dalekA.pdf> (probably more stable)

>  [Johnson-2010]
>              Johnson, L., "Torture feared in arrest of Iraqi blogger",
>              2011, <http://seattlepostglobe.org/2010/02/05/torture-
>              feared-in-arrest-of-iraqi-blogger/>.

Default Web page, probably the Seattle Post Globe disappeared?

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