Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy

+ Philipp

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com> wrote:

> I'm also interesting in attending (I'm on Google's invalid traffic/ad
> fraud team together with David Turner).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Per
>
>
> Per Bjorke | Sr Product Manager, Ad Traffic Quality | bjorke@google.com |
> 650-245-3105
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:10 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote:
>
>> +Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:01 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the Google
>>> Ad Traffic Quality team.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen=
>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending.
>>>>
>>>> -Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo <
>>>>> chelsea.komlo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how
>>>>>> the privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the
>>>>>> other mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chelsea
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey=
>>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on
>>>>>>> Willful IP Blindness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * RFC7707
>>>>>>>> * RFC7721
>>>>>>>> * RFC7217
>>>>>>>> * RFC8064
>>>>>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That said, my comments and questions are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * I'd be interested in attending
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you have
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically?  Or is possible
>>>>>>>> future work up for discussion?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of
>>>>>>>> interest.
>>>>>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation to
>>>>>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote:
>>>>>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the
>>>>>>>> topic of IP address privacy.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > IP address uses:
>>>>>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection
>>>>>>>> > - Geo IP
>>>>>>>> > - Ad targeting
>>>>>>>> > - ... others?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Privacy attacks:
>>>>>>>> > - IP re-identification
>>>>>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > IP hiding or blindness:
>>>>>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network)
>>>>>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness (https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might
>>>>>>>> turn it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd
>>>>>>>> like to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an
>>>>>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of
>>>>>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome!
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> SI6 Networks
>>>>>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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