Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
David Turner <dbturner@google.com> Wed, 18 November 2020 21:42 UTC
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From: David Turner <dbturner@google.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:41:43 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address privacy
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+ Philipp On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com> wrote: > I'm also interesting in attending (I'm on Google's invalid traffic/ad > fraud team together with David Turner). > > Thanks. > > Per > > > Per Bjorke | Sr Product Manager, Ad Traffic Quality | bjorke@google.com | > 650-245-3105 > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:10 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote: > >> +Per Bjorke <bjorke@google.com> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:01 AM David Turner <dbturner@google.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm also interested in attending and presenting on behalf of the Google >>> Ad Traffic Quality team. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:59 AM Paul Jensen <pauljensen= >>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd very much be interested in attending. >>>> >>>> -Paul >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:18 AM Brad Lassey <lassey= >>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dimitris from Whiteops has expressed interest in participating as well. >>>>> >>>>> -Brad >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:06 AM Chelsea Komlo < >>>>> chelsea.komlo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> I recommend that someone from Tor be invited to give a talk on how >>>>>> the privacy properties provided by tools like Tor differ from some of the >>>>>> other mechanisms presented (like VPNs or willful IP blindness). >>>>>> >>>>>> Chelsea >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:40 AM Brad Lassey <lassey= >>>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd very much be interested in attending as well as presenting on >>>>>>> Willful IP Blindness. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Brad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, Chris, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some of us have done some work in this area. For example: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * RFC7707 >>>>>>>> * RFC7721 >>>>>>>> * RFC7217 >>>>>>>> * RFC8064 >>>>>>>> * draft-ietf-6man-rfc4941bis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That said, my comments and questions are: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * I'd be interested in attending >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Is this a meeting to simply to discuss the topic, or do you have >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> proposed work in mind? (if so, what, specifically? Or is possible >>>>>>>> future work up for discussion?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * I don't know if the work referenced above is in-topic and of >>>>>>>> interest. >>>>>>>> If it is, and you think it would make sense to do a presentation to >>>>>>>> provide an overview, I'd be happy to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Fernando >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/11/20 14:23, Christopher Wood wrote: >>>>>>>> > The PEARG chairs would like to propose a virtual interim on the >>>>>>>> topic of IP address privacy. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > IP address uses: >>>>>>>> > - Spam, abuse, fraud, DoS protection >>>>>>>> > - Geo IP >>>>>>>> > - Ad targeting >>>>>>>> > - ... others? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Privacy attacks: >>>>>>>> > - IP re-identification >>>>>>>> > - IP-based fingerprinting >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > IP hiding or blindness: >>>>>>>> > - VPNs (and related technologies like Firefox Private Network) >>>>>>>> > - Willful IP Blindness (https://github.com/bslassey/ip-blindness) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The format of this would be presentation-based, though we might >>>>>>>> turn it into a workshop of sorts if folks think that would be more useful. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > We are aiming for some time in early December or January. We'd >>>>>>>> like to hear from folks here if they'd be interested in attending such an >>>>>>>> interim, and if so, whether they'd like to contribute to the agenda. Of >>>>>>>> course, suggestions to alter the agenda are also welcome! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Best, >>>>>>>> > Chris, on behalf of the chairs >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Fernando Gont >>>>>>>> SI6 Networks >>>>>>>> e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com >>>>>>>> PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Chelsea H. Komlo | chelseakomlo.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Pearg mailing list >>>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pearg mailing list >>>> Pearg@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/pearg >>>> >>>
- [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP address pr… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Brad Lassey
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Chelsea Komlo
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Brad Lassey
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Paul Jensen
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Matthew Finkel
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Fernando Gont
- Re: [Pearg] [EXT] Re: Proposed virtual interim on… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… David Turner
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Philipp Pfeiffenberger
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Joey S
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Corinne Cath
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Caleb Raitto
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Proposed virtual interim on IP addres… Christopher Wood
- [Pearg] Virtual interim on IP address privacy - T… Sara Dickinson