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Re: [Pearg] [saag] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?

Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski.netmagic@gmail.com> Mon, 09 January 2023 20:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Pearg] [saag] Ten years after Snowden (2013 - 2023), is IETF keeping its promises?
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Phil.  You have captured the essence of the IETF.  It is their home - 
and how most of the world views that collective.  And at some level it 
has value to different people and institutions, especially the participants.

What has been forever amazing over the past 25 years, however, is how a 
virtual internet concept devised by Louis Pouzin and imbued with lots of 
funding for tinkering by DARPA and then NSF, became the foundation for a 
religious cult that views themselves as the all-powerful guardians of 
some self-implementing specifications that are the salvation of 
humankind.  You have to admit, that is freaky.

Enough said....

--tony r


On 1/9/2023 12:27 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> You miss out people like myself: Technologists with a personal agenda 
> and independent means to pursue it. The Internet has always been 
> shaped by hacktivism.
>

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