Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"
Amelia Andersdotter <amelia.ietf@andersdotter.cc> Thu, 28 May 2020 06:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques"
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On 2020-05-27 17:10, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > >> On May 27, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com >> <mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 27 May 2020, at 13:07, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <hall@isoc.org >>> <mailto:hall@isoc.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, I didn't mean anything prescriptive by "information flows"... >>> "traffic flows" is better. Sorry for any confusion. >> >> >> Then I have to ask my question again: is stopping a DOS attack >> censorship? > > Sure, I don’t see why it couldn’t be. Have you seen Molly Sauter’s > book on this? It’s worth checking > out: https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Swarm-Hacktivism-Disobedience-Internet/dp/1623564565 > > I don’t think that’s an important question for this document, +1 best regards, Amelia > however. best, Joe > > -- > Joseph Lorenzo Hall, Senior Vice President, Strong Internet > hall@isoc.org <mailto:hall@isoc.org> | +1-703-483-9504 > internetsociety.org <http://internetsociety.org> | @internetsociety > pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key > 3CA28D7B9F6DDBD34B1016075F86698740A9A871 > >
- [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Survey of… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Gurshabad Grover
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Amelia Andersdotter
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Niels ten Oever
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… David Oliver
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Chelsea Komlo
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… David Oliver
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Chelsea Komlo
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Amelia Andersdotter
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Chelsea Komlo
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… S. Moonesamy
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… S. Moonesamy
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… S. Moonesamy
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Pearg] Research Group Last Call for "A Surve… S. Moonesamy