Re: [perpass] Fwd: FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-00.txt

Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Mon, 13 January 2014 16:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] Fwd: FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-00.txt
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Ted,
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:58:14AM -0500, Stephen Kent wrote:
>> I suspect you're right that IPsec is not used often in this context.
>> The use of MPLS would be qualitatively different, because it would
>> be offered by an ISP, not by a subscriber. Maybe that would result
>> in more encrypted traffic because ISPs would offer it as a low
>> cost service.
> It helps against some attacks, but it doesn't help for others, right?
> After all, if you are a US national, you might not trust that the
> Chinese Telecom won't pass your traffic to the MSS.  (Or if you are a
> German national, that AT&T won't decrypto your traffic and then pass
> it off to the NSA...)
yep. IPsec, under the control of a subscriber, offers more protection,
in princple.

Steve