IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [perpass] Draft charter for a Transparency Working Group

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Thu, 12 December 2013 16:41 UTC

Return-Path: <dhc@dcrocker.net>
X-Original-To: perpass@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: perpass@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D18C1AE034; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:41:49 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hSxyo1VVPNZf; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:41:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BCB1ADFFE; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:41:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [192.168.1.66] (76-218-9-215.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.218.9.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id rBCGfZhN029845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:41:38 -0800
Message-ID: <52A9E6FE.6060207@dcrocker.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:40:30 -0800
From: Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net>
Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com>, Ben Laurie <benl@google.com>
References: <CABrd9STYF166vXEXNneJfPyfo5VG3LPKmzyZpAhvYnDTsy_U9g@mail.gmail.com> <52A8B1D0.2080304@dcrocker.net> <CABrd9SS9FGsm-waznAHeMr33XzprhRF=DXVjknyL-7bOyArAxg@mail.gmail.com> <CAMm+LwjNXpszKMqXr231Vti=pfwYn98Fgmuv1T5M__nhGmZHQw@mail.gmail.com> <CABrd9SSYnBRtecDSwUZUjvKJPLB+XX6Kk_9NHtQ=X-5jo4jGxQ@mail.gmail.com> <52A8E0E9.5020409@dcrocker.net> <CABrd9ST+CKNNHZ-jLd1=boeWUh-sjZf1WF5fmayCF7+DjnD65w@mail.gmail.com> <52A9E61C.8030300@bbn.com>
In-Reply-To: <52A9E61C.8030300@bbn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:41:38 -0800 (PST)
Cc: perpass@ietf.org, saag <saag@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [perpass] Draft charter for a Transparency Working Group
X-BeenThere: perpass@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
List-Id: "The perpass list is for IETF discussion of pervasive monitoring. " <perpass.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/perpass>, <mailto:perpass-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/perpass/>
List-Post: <mailto:perpass@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:perpass-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass>, <mailto:perpass-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:41:49 -0000

On 12/12/2013 8:36 AM, Stephen Kent wrote:
> I'd like something a bit more technical, since the phrase "prove its
> own correctness" is pretty general. Hopefully there is text in 6962
> that you can use.


Ben,

The other piece of information I'm suggesting is some text that explains 
how this mechanism will be used for the purpose that's claimed.  Enough 
text to make clear why this is useful work.

Although the utility might seem intuitively obvious (to some folk), 
having the charter make this explicit will help other readers who are 
less immersed in the topic.

d/


-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

v2.31.3 | Report a Bug | By Email | System Status