Re: [perpass] Fwd: FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-00.txt

Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 10 January 2014 21:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] Fwd: FW: I-D Action: draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt-00.txt
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Hi Stephen,

I haven't read the protocol yet (although I must say Sec. 4.3 worries 
me, it reminds me of the renegotiation vulnerability), but:

- I understand MPLS traffic is often protected at a higher layer by 
IPsec. If we had a good opportunistic solution for IKE/IPsec, it could 
also cover this use case. And we know people are working on such 
solutions. [Here, that's me and my little turf war].

- But even at layer 2, there are existing solutions like WPA or MacSec. 
Can none of them be used (or extended) for this use case and do we 
really have to develop both the bulk encryption and key exchange from 
scratch? Sorry to be such a spoilsport.

Thanks,
	Yaron