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Re: [perpass] A reminder, the Network is the Enemy...

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Thu, 05 December 2013 15:27 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [perpass] A reminder, the Network is the Enemy...
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > If we assume the attacker can get the private root KSK from an US-based
> > corp, then we should also assume they can get the private root ZSK from
> > another US-based corp. As the owner of the root ZSK also owns the keys
> > for .com, the attack becomes much easier.
>
> let's start a list of juristictions which we believe are NOT compromised
> and dangerous.  i will start it off by submitting andorra.
>

Finding the one person you can trust is a bad strategy. Andorra is
considerably less likely to stand up to NSA bullying attempts than
Microsoft is. Microsoft certainly has more lawyers.

A better approach is to design the system so that it takes a defection by
more than one party. Instead of relying on just the ICANN root KSK require
a TLD to be signed by three out of five trusted national cryptolabs.


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