Re: [perpass] Hello, list of political correctness and rambling, incoherent text

Brian E Carpenter <> Fri, 27 May 2016 01:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] Hello, list of political correctness and rambling, incoherent text
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On 27/05/2016 12:20, John Levine wrote:
>> Maybe he berated us on the list but it's one of those censored IETF lists he mentioned.
> I saw him on IETF general, but I didn't pay any more attention to him
> than to the last umpteen times he's pulled this sort of stunt.
> R's,
> John
> PS: What does this have to do with perpass?

If you read his post, it conflates Snowden and Singapore in a bizarre way.