Re: [perpass] DNS confidentiality

"Christian Huitema" <huitema@huitema.net> Sun, 29 September 2013 06:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] DNS confidentiality
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Hosnieh,

CGA only protect against MITM attacks if the addresses are exchanged
securely. Otherwise, you get the following situation:

* A wants to connect with B;
* The evil E convinces A that the address of B is  X, a CGA address composed
by E;
* Using CGA, A establishes a secure channel to X;
* Using CGA, E establishes a secure channel  from X to B;

Voila, the connections are properly secured with CGA, yet E is in the
middle.

-- Christian Huitema