Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sat, 01 February 2014 17:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff
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Hiya On 02/01/2014 02:58 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am willing to be self-organized into a PM worrier's klatch. > and even to review drafts for PM But you don't want to be a non-self-organizer? :-) I'm still looking for one, at least between now and London. What happens later can be figured out there. I think it'd help for a more productive meeting if someone has time to think some about the options for doing these kinds of review for example. I've requested a room for Monday lunchtime for this anyway. There will not be a perfect time for such a session of course, but that's probably as good/bad as any earlier-week slot. S. > > I think one of the things the Worriers would need to accumulate over > time, though I am sure the basic list can be created already from > draft-farrell-perpass-attack, is a list of clues for practices and such > that might be something to be worried about. > > avri > > > On 29-Jan-14 08:55, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> >> Hiya, >> >> One idea that came up in Vancouver and that we (meaning at least >> me:-) haven't had a chance to progress was the idea of trying to >> get a team of folks together to go do privacy reviews of existing >> RFCs. Or perhaps slightly differently, reviews that explicitly >> consider pervasive monitoring, which might be more constrained >> and a bit easier. >> >> I think Christian H. commented at the mic that there is probably >> a *lot* of low hanging fruit out there, and I suspect he's quite >> right:-) >> >> Now that we're in the run up to the London IETF, if some of you >> had time to try self-organise that kind of thing that'd be great. >> Any takers for trying to organise that? >> >> Using this list to start with should be fine, if it results in >> loads of traffic we can spin up a new one, or move over to >> ietf-privacy@ietf.org. >> >> If there are folks willing to take this on and having a >> side-meeting in London helps, I can get you a room for that. >> >> Thanks, >> S. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> perpass mailing list >> perpass@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass >> >> > _______________________________________________ > perpass mailing list > perpass@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass >
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff avri
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Alissa Cooper
- [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephen Farrell
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Scott Brim
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephen Farrell
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Klaas Wierenga
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Dave Crocker
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Scott Brim
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Avri Doria
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Dave Crocker
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephen Farrell
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Stephen Farrell
- Re: [perpass] privacy/PM reviews of existing stuff Scott Brim