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Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might use the IoT to spy on you

Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org> Fri, 12 February 2016 09:01 UTC

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From: Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org>
To: "dan@geer.org" <dan@geer.org>
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True... but as I say, a large proportion of those devices will generate data which comes out from behind the firewall and therefore becomes accessible. Businesses based on the monetization of personal data stand to gain from IoT because it represents a massive increase in the generation of their 'raw material'; but to be useful, that raw material has to get to them and be mined.

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Robin Wilton

Technical Outreach Director - Identity and Privacy

On 12 Feb 2016, at 03:54, "dan@geer.org" <dan@geer.org> wrote:

>> Yup - so much for the dire warnings about the Internet "going dark"...
> 
> The IoT will be why the percentage of the network that is dark,
> that is to say unreachable, will approach 99%.  They will get their
> addresses from DHCP4/6 and will be behind a firewall that will
> prevent inbound connections by default.  The default-routable
> customer network is history.
> 
> And if that turns out to not be the case, the world will then truly
> be the traffic analyst's oyster.
> 
> --dan
>

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