[Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call for Volunteers
Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Tue, 04 October 2005 16:04 UTC
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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
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Subject: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call for Volunteers
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A comment, On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Spencer Dawkins wrote: >> It's not an easy job. Being able to give input to the IETF leadership >> certainly is VERY important, and having diverse set of people do it should >> be a big plus. However, it may be worth considering whether it's something >> folks without strong employer backing for getting into that specific post >> can participate in .. and whether that's a good sign or not. > > I forwarded Pekka's note for a few reasons: > > - I've been participating in an off-again, on-again discussion about IESG > overload for a couple of years, but am concerned that even participating in > NOMCOM may be out of reach for many IETF participants (I know how hard Pekka > works, and HE doesn't have time for NOMCOM?) The problem is (IMHO) this: if a person has the ability to spend XX hours per week (on average) on "IETF business", which kind of business should (s)he spend it on? I'd estimate NOMCOM will about take 5-10 hours per week for about 3 months, with stronger bias towards the end of the 'term' (and the possibility for recurring stints if folks resign). Not sure how close to the mark this is.. For most people, committing to that kind of job might require dropping all (or most) the other [technical] IETF activities -- the main stuff *technical* people are usually interested in. Even if you spent half of your time for direct IETF business, that kind of change in the time consumption would be significant. So, my concern here is that current NOMCOM structure seems to encourage participation from big vendors who can promise their employees something to the effect of: "being able to affect IETF leadership is so important that we'll get you a big bonus and shift off your day-time job if you get chosen -- you must put your name to the hat!" .. and this seems troublesome. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call for … Spencer Dawkins
- [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Brian E Carpenter
- [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Brian E Carpenter
- [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Brian E Carpenter