Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of technical expertise"
"JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@jefsey.com> Sun, 23 October 2005 15:51 UTC
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Interesting en-latn-uk-x-ietf debate. I would love the AD to be considered as the users interests steward. jfc At 14:26 23/10/2005, Elwyn Davies wrote: >Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >>Scott W Brim wrote: >> >>>On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 09:12:51AM -0500, Spencer Dawkins allegedly wrote: >>> >>>>I'm quite a bit more comfortable with "central arbitrators of >>>>technical expertise", and think the statement is probably even true - others? >>> >>> >>> >>>Can you find a phrase that sounds a little more natural and less like >>>George Will? >> >> >>I don't know who George Will is > >Neither did I, but I happened to come across a reference to him >yesterday. For the benefit of the uninformed in the rest of the >world he is apparently a venerable (since 1977!), conservative >opinion columnist for the Washington Post and television talking >head. I presume he has some of the same predilictions for flowery >language to which I am prone. Maybe also the same urge to ensure >that some of the more precise words in the half million or so that >English provides us with do not fall into abeyance. > >>but I agree the phrase is a bit >>clumsy - if we agree on the notion, we can surely find a better word. > >The word you are probably after is 'arbiter', rather than 'arbitrator'. > > From the OED: > > > arbiter > > *noun* *1* a person who settles a dispute. *2* a person who has >influence over something. > > ORIGIN Latin, 'judge, supreme ruler'. > >Both senses and the origin seems quite appropriate ;-) > >Regards, >Elwyn > > >> >>Brian >> >>> >>> >>>>>2. I believe a more accurate statement is the the ADs are the central >>>>>arbitrators of technical expertise. They get to appoint WG chairs, >>>>>expert reviewers, and the like. That's at least as important as their >>>>>own technical skills, imho. >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Pesci-discuss mailing list >>>Pesci-discuss@ietf.org >>>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pesci-discuss mailing list >>Pesci-discuss@ietf.org >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss > > >_______________________________________________ >Pesci-discuss mailing list >Pesci-discuss@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] Preview of PESCI draft Brian E Carpenter
- [Pesci-discuss] My Notes on draft-davies-pesci-in… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] My Notes on draft-davies-pesc… Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] My Notes on draft-davies-pesc… Spencer Dawkins
- Kobe reference (Re: [Pesci-discuss] My Notes...) Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Declarers of consensus (Re: [Pesci-discuss] My No… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Declarers of consensus (Re: [Pesci-discuss] M… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Declarers of consensus (Re: [Pesci-discuss] M… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of tec… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] My Notes on draft-davies-pesc… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Elwyn Davies
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Elwyn Davies
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of… Dave Crocker