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Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of technical expertise"

Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> Sun, 23 October 2005 20:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Pesci-discuss] "ADs are the central focus of technical expertise"
From: Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com>
To: Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>
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On 10/23/05 8:26 AM, "Elwyn Davies" <elwynd@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
> Maybe also the same urge to ensure that some of the more precise words
> in the half million or so that English provides us with do not fall into
> abeyance.

That would not be the particular problem with George Will's
writing.

> The word you are probably after is 'arbiter', rather than 'arbitrator'.

To be honest, I don't like either word here.  I think what's
under discussion is basically just personnel management.  "Arbiter"
suggests that the IESG members are making judgements about who's
a smarty-pants and who's a meathead.  While I'm sure that's true,
I hope that doesn't become part of their official job description
and that instead the job description focuses on the management
aspects of identifying working group leadership, getting rid of
working group leadership, and so on.

Melinda
 

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