[Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call for Volunteers
"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Tue, 04 October 2005 17:08 UTC
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Subject: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call for Volunteers
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OK, now I'm more concerned... I totally agree with Pekka on the "big vendors who can sponsor volunteers" issue. > So, my concern here is that current NOMCOM structure seems to encourage > participation from big vendors who can promise their employees something > to the effect of: > > "being able to affect IETF leadership is so important that we'll get you a > big bonus and shift off your day-time job if you get chosen -- > you must put your name to the hat!" > > .. and this seems troublesome. And, in another response, Brian responded to my question this way: >> - More to the point for Pesci, we should probably remember this e-mail >> when proposing MORE NOMCOM responsibilities - not that proposing more >> NOMCOMed positions is a bad thing, only that it comes with certain costs. >> Is it possible that PESCI recommendations might involve fewer NOMCOMed >> positions? > > Or even more fundamental changes to leadership selection methods? I'm not opposed to such, but do have concerns that anything we use to replace NOMCOM should be as difficult to "game" as NOMCOM has been. We must also remember that "big vendors" are acting in their own self-interest - while NOMCOM hasn't been perfect, it's been fairly difficult to "game" for most of the time I've been in the IETF; if we make fundamental changes to leadership selection methods, we need to end up with a selection mechanism that's still difficult to game. Spencer _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call for … Spencer Dawkins
- [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Pekka Savola
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Brian E Carpenter
- [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Brian E Carpenter
- [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 Call … Michael Richardson
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Re: Fw: Last NomCom 2005/06 C… Brian E Carpenter