Re: [Pesci-discuss] stack overflow

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

Folks,


> As Brian says, we didn't think it would be legitimate to change the
> process for changing the process -- it's a boostrapping problem, we
> have to use what we have now to get to the next level.

This is the part I simply do not understand.  We have had lots of process 
changes, over the years, involving a variety of "processes".  The most 
important characteristics that they have had in common are:

1. A problem was perceived and appears to be considered a problem by "the 
community"

2. A proposal for change was formulated and promoted (errrr... discussed.)

3. Feedback from the community prompted iteration on the proposal until 
enough support appeared to be present

4. The change was adopted.

Instead we now have two things that greet every single serious proposal for 
change:

1. Claims that it's folliwing the wrong process, or that first we have to 
discuss and revise the process, and

2. Death by a thousand criticisms, rather than a collaborative tone to 
improve it.

When we stop focussing on the process of change, and start focusing on 
making changes, we are likely to make much better progress.

d/

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