Re: [Pesci-discuss] Draft BOF agenda
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Wed, 19 October 2005 13:32 UTC
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Scott W Brim wrote:
> On 10/19/2005 05:53 AM, Sam Hartman allegedly wrote:
>
>>My inclination is to focus the BOF discussion on principles for
>>process change and on next steps and to hold the general principles
>>discussion on the list, in the plenary and probably later on the ietf
>>list. However I'm open to other proposals for maintaining bof focus
>>and for addressing my concerns of the previous paragraph.
>>
>>Regardless, I would recommend separating the principles discussion on
>>the agenda. Please consider discussing the process change principles
>>(4.1, 4.2.1 and 4.2.2) separatly from the more general principles
>>(4.2.3 through 4.2.7). You may consider 4.1.1 to be part of the more
>>general principles.
>
>
> This sounds good to me.
My opinion is that Sam has put his finger on something that has
been hovering at the back of my mind for the last 3 weeks,
but I couldn't catch it. So I agree, and anything that helps
us focus the BOF is good.
Brian
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- [Pesci-discuss] Draft BOF agenda Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Draft BOF agenda Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Draft BOF agenda Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Draft BOF agenda Brian E Carpenter