Re: [Pesci-discuss] For whom it may concern..

Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com> Thu, 10 November 2005 01:12 UTC

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Pekka,

An alternative perception is that you *saw* the IAB/IESG
contributing to the discussion of the solution, trying to help
lead it towards something that will work.

As opposed ot sitting in a smokey back room making the comments
among ourselves, for example.

Leslie.

Pekka Savola wrote:
> Dear (parts ofo the) IESG and IAB,
> 
> Thanks for overwhelming the PESCI BOF with your concerns.
> 
> Wouldn't you rather be part of the solution, or continue being part of 
> the problem?
> 
> Unless you've noticed, the IETF leadership (that would be you) has not 
> exactly been active or successful in solving this problem.  I realize 
> John Klensin already stated this at a plenary a year or two ago. Maybe 
> you should look at the mirror, and step back a bit when the community 
> tries to solve the problem?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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