Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings
Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Fri, 21 October 2005 07:42 UTC
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Scott W Brim wrote: >How can we have the focus of the interims and >still have the cross-fertilization? > > Easy. Do both. Its silly to think that 3 x 2 hrs = 6 hrs of face time per year will advance any major piece of technology. In addition, people will need to have design teams, conference calls, interim meetings, private meetings, etc. And obviously work on their drafts and reviews on their own. Having said that, I don't think the focus of the main IETF meeting should be just "reporting to a broader audience" as Geoff put it. I hate status report meetings packed with 10 minute slots of "we updated the draft and here are the issues please continue the discussion on the list". Its true that we do get a broader audience, both within and outside the WG in the IETF main meetings. However, the meeting should still focus on discussion of relevant technical topics, engaging not just the regular key contributors but also others in this discussion. --Jari _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: Re: I… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Dave Crocker
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Tony Hansen