Re: [Pesci-discuss] Finding and nurturing the bright sparks of genius

> Some of these have been adopted, most have not. And of the set not 
> adopted, one common thread for many is that we do not know *how to make 
> that change*.

Dave is also fond of pointing out that the *real* common thread is a 
demonstrated community desire to spend more time criticizing and dismissing 
proposals than in making them work.

 From that perspective, the "we do not know how to make that change" 
argument is merely a convenient process hack that successfully distracts us 
from doing the hard work of making real changes.

An alternative to constantly turning every change suggestion into a process 
issue is encourage going about the direct work of making the change.  This 
involves rallying basic support and then focusing on improvement and 
adoption of the change. In such a context, the process oversight merely 
isone of ensuring that an effort doesn't do silly and/or destructive things.

Hence, "process" divides simply into sanity-checking and recruitment of 
community support.

(By the way, that's the way successful IETF process changes have been done 
in the past.)

d/

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