Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Sun, 06 November 2005 16:57 UTC
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>>>>> "Jari" == Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> writes: Jari> I'm also in for "rough consensus" (sometimes we try to make Jari> it too smooth) as well as "running code" (we need more of Jari> that). Jari> However, I'd like to make an observation that there may be Jari> different decision processes depending on the type of Jari> decision involved. I believe very much that on our basic Jari> technical work RCRC should apply. But we already apply Jari> different principles in different parts of the Jari> organization. For instance, nomcom has its special Jari> procedures. IESG has its special procedures -- not sure how Jari> I should classify them, would "absolute consensus" or Jari> "voting" describe the final IESG review model better than Jari> RCRC? And I'm fine with having these specific processes. I think the IESG actually follows RC RC although we've defined an explicit measure of what rough is for documents at least. Rough is two ADs left out on an override vote. I do agree that special processes for some things such as process change may be appropriate. I think the community would need to agree to these processes. I also think that ultimately the community needs to at least have a consensus to consent to a process change. We might decide that community level line item editing of process changes is something that doesn't work, but at least a community consensus call at the end seems important. --Sam _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore